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Nov 08 2017
20 November 2017 - 00:07

For those of you who generally type in code tags and such, the BBC tags don't work in this software.
This [code] [/code] just comes up as it is typed.

The code box is opened and closed by three backticks, like this:

code here

Or, you can use four spaces before each line, like this:

    a code block
    indented four spaces
    instead of using backticks

Quotes look like this

> quoted text here

and show up like this

quoted text here

Bold text

**Bold text here**

looks like this
Bold text here


_ text in italics here_

text in italics here

The H button makes a header

### heading text

heading text

Try them out, and see what shows up... ;)

Reply to this thread if you want to just try the functions out. I'll clean up occasionally, if it gets too messy. :)


Another thing: I just discovered how the "preview" function works.
Click on the button to see a preview of your post, and click on it again to get back to the editing window.

Full Screen

For those of us who are dependant on reading glasses, there is a useful full screen function in the top right corner of the post editing window. The button is marked with two diagonal arrows pointing to top right and lower left.
Click on it once to go to full-screen, and once again to get back to the standard view.


or smileys, or whatever you prefer to call them are available. Type a colon
and a drop-down list appears. Start typing the name of your smiley, and the list changes to incorporate what you are typing.
There is a link to a cheat sheet on the help page opened by the question mark on the green button above the post edit window.

This one is there 🍺 ,so we're pretty much covered, I think. πŸ˜‰

A link in a post

It is quite easy to put a label on a link.
When you click on the link button, (labelled with a symbolised chain link) a window comes up to type (or copy and paste) the link into. After you do that and hit ok, this appears in the post:

 [enter link description here](

and it looks like this

enter link description here

anything you type between the square brackets on the left, where is says "enter link description here", will appear in the post as the name of the link. This is even already highlighted when the link is posted, so you just have to type away to get something like this.

this is a link back to this thread

When the name is finished, just click somewhere else in the post to continue typing there.

30 December 2017 - 23:48

Cromag wrote:

In most cases it means the partion has been whiped.

That would imply that something was done to wipe the partition. I would think it more likely that the drive is not being read properly, perhaps canΒ΄t be read. The machine is old, isn't it Dinga? So one must recognise the possibility that the drive is dead or dying.

If the machine is not booting from a bootable DVD, then it is not finding, or not looking for, the medium during boot. Are you sure that the DVD drive still works? When was it last used?

If you are sure the DVD drive works, and the medium in it is definately bootable and ok, and the drive is not starting at boot, then I think the problem must be in the BIOS. That is to say, the problem with the DVD medium, not the message that there is no operating system.

Resetting the BIOS as Cromag suggested may help. It can't really hurt, either. The machine is apparently pretty comprehensively broken, so resetting the BIOS is unlikely to make things worse.

Have you, in the past, sucessfully booted the machine from a USB medium? If so, do you have a bootable USB medium at hand? You could try that.

If you can get the machine to boot from a DVD or USB, the question is whether the hard drive is being fouind or not. If not, and if the machine is old as I assume, then I think it is highly possible that the drive is at least sick and maybe dying or dead already.

If you can determine that the machine is otherwise ok but not finding the drive, i.e. get it to boot from a bootable DVD or USB, you could try putting the drive in an external exclosure to see if another machine can mount and read it. If that works, the problem is in the hardware of the machine (probably, I think πŸ˜‰ ).
You can then at least acces any files that are on there.

Or maybe it is really a corrupt partition. If you can get the machine booted from a bootable medium, or get the drive mounted from an external exclosure on another machine, you might be able to save something with a partitioning tool that is smart enough to block bad partitions. However, if the drive is starting to have bad blocks in a big way, I wouldn't be trusting it for important things.

31 December 2017 - 08:39

Cromag wrote:

... also make sure grub is installed.

Yes, meant to have mentioned that.

And yes, looks more and more like the first step is to get it to boot into a live USB or similar, and have a look at the drive. Or just re-install.

nubimax wrote:

...damn if I can remember what happened last month.

Maybe it would jog your memory if you read back through your thread about the new laptop here
click this link

01 January 2018 - 01:38

nubimax wrote:

the laptop hooked up to the ships electrical system,...I am thinking we had some fluxation in current. At this point that is my best guess.

Likely to be a good guess, I reckon.

30 January 2018 - 08:55

ranchhand wrote:

But what most people want is a simple solution to complex procedures and there are a lot of people that will tell you, at length, about some short cut twaddle. Some is just plain dangerous.

That is really well put, and pretty much universally applicable. Is true for pretty much anything you do with your hands from cooking to building nuclear reactors, over medicine and health care, through relationships between people, all the way to politics. πŸ˜‰

30 January 2018 - 15:05

Leppie wrote:

How do you do politics with your hands?

Ok, I've taken a comma out of that sentence, so it is hopefully less ambigous. Smartarse.

And then how would you be politically correct with your hands?

That's easy: pinch both women and men on the bum. πŸ˜€

31 January 2018 - 14:59

True. 😁

12 February 2018 - 13:16

How do you mean "see" the drives? Partition structure, or what is on the partition, or what exactly?

And what do you want to test? Perhaps S.M.A.R.T might be the direction you are looking for.
That is this
Wikipedia article

If I remember rightly, the partitioning program Gparted will show you at least some of the S.M.A.R.T. values.
It might also well be the program you need to "see" the drives, depending on what you want to see.

It can be run from a boot medium, and is generally available in the repositories of a linux distribution.
Be careful with gparted. You can really break your machine badly with it... πŸ˜‰

03 March 2018 - 23:00

What did you do different? Did you use the commands, or install the GUI, or what?

03 March 2018 - 23:15

Thanks. That was for anyone who might read the thread looking for a solution to the same problem you had. πŸ˜„